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Genealogy => Thom(p)son DNA Project => Topic started by: Booner on April 20, 2009, 09:42:06 PM
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Last year, Ancestry.com had a special on DNA testing so I took advantage of it and had my DNA analyzed. Below are my results. I'm hoping that any others who have DNA results will post them here.
Again, my testing was done by Ancestry.com. Other testing companies use different standards to determine the marker values. The Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation has a comparison chart for adjusting the various values between different companies at: www.smgf.org/ychromosomr/marker_standards.jspx
LOCATION: SEQUENCE LOCATION: SEQUENCE LOCATION: SEQUENCE
DYS 19a 14 DYS 444 12 DYS 464a 15
DYS 19b -- DYS 445 12 DYS 464b 16
DYS 385a 11 DYS 446 13 DYS 464c 17
DYS 385b 15 DYS 447 24 DYS 464d 18
DYS 388 12 DYS 448 19 DYS 464e --
DYS 389I 13 DYS 449 29 DYS 464f --
DYS 389II 29 DYS 452 30 GAAT1807 10
DYS 390 23 DYS 454 11 YCA IIa 19
DYS 391 10 DYS 455 11 YCA IIb 23
DYS 392 13 DYS 456 15 GATA A10 14
DYS 393 13 DYS 458 17 DYS 635 24
DYS 426 12 DYS 459a 9 GATA H4.I 22
DYS 437 15 DYS 459b 10
DYS 438 12 DYS 460 11
DYS 439 11 DYS 461 12
DYS 441 14 DYS 462 11
DYS 442 18 DYS 463 24
regards,
Booner
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Ah, so here you have answered my question from the previous topic.........I will dig out my brothers and post it here sometime this morning!
Cathy
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Tried this morning and it came out a jumble. Booner did his DNA through Ancestry and I did mine through FamilyTreeDNA and there are some differences that have to be reconciled from the two - but, here's the raw data from mine
(http://clanthompson.org/Temp/DNA.jpg)
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ok-- i think i have made some sense of toms post and ho it relates to my DNA
heres the locations where we match; if i'm doing this right we have 32 location matches and of those, we match 30 sequences. where we differ, i've put toms sequence in ( ). you'll note 2 things,: 1, where we differ, it's only by a factor of 1, and 2. DYS 442 in Ancestory.com is off by a factor of 5 by Family tree, so on that Location (allele), we actually match. (see my note regarding-> "The Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation has a comparison chart for adjusting the various values between different companies at: www.smgf.org/ychromosomr/marker_standards.jspx"
LOCATION: SEQUENCE LOCATION: SEQUENCE LOCATION: SEQUENCE
DYS 19a 14 DYS 444 DYS 464a 15
DYS 19b -- DYS 445 DYS 464b 16
DYS 385a 11 DYS 446 13 DYS 464c 17
DYS 385b 15 DYS 447 24 DYS 464d 18
DYS 388 12 DYS 448 19 DYS 464e --
DYS 389I 13 DYS 449 29 ( 30) DYS 464f --
DYS 389II 29 DYS 452 GAAT1807
DYS 390 23 DYS 454 11 YCA IIa 19
DYS 391 10 DYS 455 11 YCA IIb 23
DYS 392 13 DYS 456 15 (16) GATA A10
DYS 393 13 DYS 458 17 DYS 635
DYS 426 12 DYS 459a 9 GATA H4.I
DYS 437 15 DYS 459b 10
DYS 438 12 DYS 460 11
DYS 439 11 DYS 461
DYS 441 DYS 462
DYS 442 18 (13) DYS 463
Thanks for posting Tom!
Yer cuszin,
Booner
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Thanks for the work, Booner.
I've uploaded my DNA as a picture and it makes more sense. :-\
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I hope this attaches, it is my brother's DNA analysis...............
Cathy
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My goodness....it would appear that my dna sample is very similiar...................Booner, what is your user name on ancestry??
Cathy
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Cathy.
My Ancestory.com username is... dthompson1334.... and i just downloaded my FTM gedcom file, and think i called it "Thompson Family History"
going to look at the DNA now
Booner
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Hi Cathy,
I just did a comparison between your brother, and Tom & myself. Below is a comparison between we three.. out of 46 markers, I match your brother in only 34, Tom matches your brother in 33: so its several generations back before your brother & I share a common ancestor,,,,, something in the range of 40 or 50 generations or more, just off by one sequence and it's 7 or 8 generations before you have a common ancestory--the DNA within the Y chromosome just doesn't mutate very often..... So I guess the Thomson-being MacTavish-thing would be true---if you go back 50 generations or so!!!!! Lets see, 50 generations back would put us about the time the neolithic hunter-gatherers were settling Scotland, so yea, that's when we had a common ancestor. Seriously, I think this is rather important. It proves the lie that Thompsons' are really MacTavishes...genetically, it's not possible.....
Below is my DNA, Tom's difference to me is listed in ( ), Cathy's brother difference to me in { }
LOCATION: SEQUENCE LOCATION: SEQUENCE LOCATION: SEQUENCE
DYS 19a 14 DYS 444 12 {13} DYS 464a 15
DYS 19b -- DYS 445 DYS 464b 16 {16}
DYS 385a 11 DYS 446 13 DYS 464c 17 {15}
DYS 385b 15 {14} DYS 447 24 {24} DYS 464d 18 {16}
DYS 388 12 DYS 448 19 DYS 464e --
DYS 389I 13 {13} DYS 449 29 ( 30) DYS 464f --
DYS 389II 29 {23} DYS 452 GAAT1807
DYS 390 23 {23} DYS 454 11 YCA IIa 19
DYS 391 10 DYS 455 11 YCA IIb 23
DYS 392 13 DYS 456 15 (16) GATA A10 17 {14}
DYS 393 13 DYS 458 17 DYS 635 24
DYS 426 12 DYS 459a 9 GATA H4.I 22
DYS 437 15 DYS 459b 10
DYS 438 12 DYS 460 11
DYS 439 11 DYS 461
DYS 441 DYS 462
DYS 442 18 (13*){17} DYS 463
My best to everyone who posts on our site, and a big thanks to Cathy for posting here DNA
Booner
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Hey Booner!
Thank you so much for doing all the legwork on the 3 DNA lists. Those things are enough to make your head spin! Yeah....looks like you all have great connections to MacT.....like, the most basic, common DNA of ALL HUMANS! It was great to see that we are NOT related (outside of Adam?) and that, in fact, THOM(P)SONS ARE related. What, you ask? Well, we keep running into the surname naming conventions of "son of Tom" which I do agree with.....but it now shows that those "sons of Tom" ARE ACTUALLY RELATED! You don't just share a NAME, but are genetically related. That's sooooooooooo cool! 8)
Thanks again - you're the man! (As if you didn't know! :)
Mary
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It does place in doubt the myth that MacTavish is Thompson and Thompson is MacTavish.................50-60 generations huh.........that would be about the time of Nero????
Well thanks to all you Thompson's for adopting me anyway!
Cathy McTavish Thompson
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Well thanks to all you Thompson's for adopting me anyway!
Cathy McTavish Thompson
Isn't it nice that there ARE times that you can pick your family??? And I love the new name extension.....can't say you don't fit now!!!
Cousin Mary
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Sister Cathy
in just a quick check of my family history, my 50th great grandfather was Eochy ( or Eugenius) the king of Dalrieda, Ire. who lived between 309 & 439 or there abouts. That was about 400 years before the Irish settled in Scotland.
and my 34th g grandmother was Eadgifu -- the wife of one of the Angle kings of one of the English kingdoms. Eadgifu was her name as spoken in angle-ish. Her name in English was Gadiva, as in Lady Gadiva, the lady who rode around naked. Her husband wanted to raise the taxes of his subjects, and she begged him not to do so. so he said something to the effect to ride naked and he wouldn't raise the taxes..So she did... but she had long hair so no big deal, unless it got windy.
That story may be true.
And it may explain why I want to ride my motorcycle nakid. it's a genetic thing
I gotta get to bed
Booner
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Cousin Booner you crack me up!!! ;D
Barbara
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Hey Barbara ........and he's RIDING HIS MOTORCYCLE to Glasgow!! Maybe we should get binoculars......??? What with his penchant and all........
Mary
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Hey Mary & Barbara,
I hope one of you will be taking photos to post on the Forum! :o
Donna
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Katey - don't read this one!
Yeah............. disregard the holes from the thumbtacks on my corkboard! :P ;D He really doesn't have to go "nekkid" --- He can just ride the bike in a kilt! About the same difference :o
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Boy Booner, I am going to keep a sharp eye out for you in Glasgow, "I can't wait to meet you!"
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Cathy,
I'm not hard to miss--Just ask Mary & Barb; I 'm big, hairy & scary.
Looking forward to seeing ally my cousins.
Booner
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Well......at least big and hairy!
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Booner, Do you have enough HAIR to get by with it?!!!! What I wouldn't give.......
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To All
Booner claims to be big, hairy and scary.
I know him - he is big,
- he has lots more hair than I do.
- he is more like a big warm fuzzy teddy bear (that's why the women dream about him) but scary NO-.NOT Only NO but hell no.
Tom|
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Warm & Fuzzy... riding a motorcycle...
I'll just keep the Big, Hairy, & Scary image, if y'all dont mind ;D
Donna
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I think I have convinced Jim to have his DNA done! Karma
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It's expensive, but I think the Family Tree DNA site is the best --- you can get 67 markers which gives you a much more definitive DHA profile than the 12, 24, etc. If you're going to do it, you may as well do it once and right. Booner went through Ancestry.com I think...
I think it's great the more of the guys are getting their DNA profiles. It's so exciting to know that we truly are family! I have Thompson in my genealogy too, but since I'm not a guy, the DNA won't work. Durn!
So, Jimmie ----order up your kit! Super!
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Hello, I was just wondering - I missed the ancestry DNA testing.
So,,, where, How, etc do I test my DNA ?
-Steve-
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Well, here's Jimmie's DNA results. Now if we can just figure out how related we are? ??? Karma
DYS- 19a 19b 385a 385b 388 389I 389II 390 391 392 393 426 437 438 439 441 442 444 445 446 447 448 449 452 454 455 456 458 459a 459b 460 461 462
15 - 15 16 13 13 29 24 10 12 15 11 15 10 11 15 17 14 11 10 27 20 27 31 11 11 14 16 8 9 11 12 12
DYS- 463 464a 464b 464c 464d 464e 464f GAAT 1807 YCA IIa YCA IIb GATA A10 DYS 635 GATA H4
22 11 11 15 15 - - 11 19 21 15 19 11
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I just looked at Jimmie's DNA data.
I suggest you go to FamilyTree DNA project Y- Search and post your results there.
I may have to be reorganized to match their DYS.
www.familytreedna.com/public/thompson/index.asps?fixed-columals=on
You can start with www.familytree.com
My combined listing from all sources show 10 different but related families.
Tom